Category talk:Infantry Battalions - Revision history

Mia: /* Category names */

2014-12-17T12:35:34Z

‎Category names

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GavinRobinson: /* Category names */

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‎Category names

Mia: -

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GavinRobinson: /* Category names */

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‎Category names

Mia: 'without' or 'with no' in category names

2014-12-16T12:34:30Z

'without' or 'with no' in category names

81.151.21.219: 'without' or 'with no' in category names

2014-12-16T12:33:22Z

'without' or 'with no' in category names

Mia: /* Case for category names? */ Sentence case

2014-12-09T16:58:27Z

‎Case for category names?: Sentence case

Mia: /* Case for category names? */ Ugh, title case

2014-12-08T18:21:19Z

‎Case for category names?: Ugh, title case

GavinRobinson at 18:25, 6 December 2014

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	:::: Ok! I've updated [[http://collaborativecollections.org/WorldWarOne/FAQ_and_help#Page_categories]]. I've also been looking for an easier way to add categories but haven't been able to find a suitable user-friendly extension so far. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 09:40, 16 December 2014 (PST)		:::: Ok! I've updated [[http://collaborativecollections.org/WorldWarOne/FAQ_and_help#Page_categories]]. I've also been looking for an easier way to add categories but haven't been able to find a suitable user-friendly extension so far. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 09:40, 16 December 2014 (PST)
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		+	::::: Actually I like 'needing' for personal narratives too, because it suggests an action for someone reading the page, and they are needed whether or not any still exist. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 04:35, 17 December 2014 (PST)

	==Case for category names?==		==Case for category names?==

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	:::Let's have 'official war diaries' to make it absolutely unambiguous. If cats are added by templates it's not much extra typing.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 08:01, 16 December 2014 (PST)		:::Let's have 'official war diaries' to make it absolutely unambiguous. If cats are added by templates it's not much extra typing.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 08:01, 16 December 2014 (PST)
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		+	:::: Ok! I've updated [[http://collaborativecollections.org/WorldWarOne/FAQ_and_help#Page_categories]]. I've also been looking for an easier way to add categories but haven't been able to find a suitable user-friendly extension so far. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 09:40, 16 December 2014 (PST)

	==Case for category names?==		==Case for category names?==

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	:: Fair enough! And 'official war diaries' or just 'official diaries'? --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 07:24, 16 December 2014 (PST)		:: Fair enough! And 'official war diaries' or just 'official diaries'? --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 07:24, 16 December 2014 (PST)
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		+	:::Let's have 'official war diaries' to make it absolutely unambiguous. If cats are added by templates it's not much extra typing.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 08:01, 16 December 2014 (PST)

	==Case for category names?==		==Case for category names?==

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	:I intended "with no" to mean that it's confirmed that none exist, while "needing" means someone needs to check whether official diaries do or don't exist. It might be better to keep "without" for personal narratives because they're a different sort of thing. No-one can ever be sure that no personal narratives exist for a unit because a shoebox could always turn up, whereas checking a few major archive catalogues is enough to confirm that official diaries don't exist. And even if one personal narrative is added, there could be more, so there isn't a neat distinction between pages that need a narrative and pages that already have one.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 04:55, 16 December 2014 (PST)		:I intended "with no" to mean that it's confirmed that none exist, while "needing" means someone needs to check whether official diaries do or don't exist. It might be better to keep "without" for personal narratives because they're a different sort of thing. No-one can ever be sure that no personal narratives exist for a unit because a shoebox could always turn up, whereas checking a few major archive catalogues is enough to confirm that official diaries don't exist. And even if one personal narrative is added, there could be more, so there isn't a neat distinction between pages that need a narrative and pages that already have one.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 04:55, 16 December 2014 (PST)
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		+	:: Fair enough! And 'official war diaries' or just 'official diaries'? --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 07:24, 16 December 2014 (PST)

	==Case for category names?==		==Case for category names?==

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	I'm going to go through and update Battalions_without_personal_narratives/Battalions_with_personal_narratives to Units_without_personal_narratives/Units_with_personal_narratives but I noticed that some of yours use 'with no' instead of 'without' - which option should we go with? --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 04:34, 16 December 2014 (PST)		I'm going to go through and update Battalions_without_personal_narratives/Battalions_with_personal_narratives to Units_without_personal_narratives/Units_with_personal_narratives but I noticed that some of yours use 'with no' instead of 'without' - which option should we go with? --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 04:34, 16 December 2014 (PST)

		+	:I intended "with no" to mean that it's confirmed that none exist, while "needing" means someone needs to check whether official diaries do or don't exist. It might be better to keep "without" for personal narratives because they're a different sort of thing. No-one can ever be sure that no personal narratives exist for a unit because a shoebox could always turn up, whereas checking a few major archive catalogues is enough to confirm that official diaries don't exist. And even if one personal narrative is added, there could be more, so there isn't a neat distinction between pages that need a narrative and pages that already have one.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 04:55, 16 December 2014 (PST)

	==Case for category names?==		==Case for category names?==

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	== Category names ==		== Category names ==
−	I'm going to go through and update Battalions_without_personal_narratives/Battalions_with_personal_narratives to Units_without_personal_narratives/Units_with_personal_narratives but I noticed that some of yours use 'with no' instead of 'without' - which option should we go with? --[[~~Special~~:~~Contributions/81.151.21.219~~\|~~81.151.21.219~~]] 04:33, 16 December 2014 (PST)	+	I'm going to go through and update Battalions_without_personal_narratives/Battalions_with_personal_narratives to Units_without_personal_narratives/Units_with_personal_narratives but I noticed that some of yours use 'with no' instead of 'without' - which option should we go with? --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 04:34, 16 December 2014 (PST)

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	:::I think whether the categories containing the actual pages take their names from general role or specific type will depend on how many each country is likely to have. "Australian medical units" can probably accomodate all of them without sub-categories but "British medical units" would probably be better split into "British field ambulances", "British casualty clearing stations" etc. Higher level parent categories can easily be worked out and changed later.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 10:23, 6 December 2014 (PST)		:::I think whether the categories containing the actual pages take their names from general role or specific type will depend on how many each country is likely to have. "Australian medical units" can probably accomodate all of them without sub-categories but "British medical units" would probably be better split into "British field ambulances", "British casualty clearing stations" etc. Higher level parent categories can easily be worked out and changed later.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 10:23, 6 December 2014 (PST)
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		+	== Category names ==
		+	I'm going to go through and update Battalions_without_personal_narratives/Battalions_with_personal_narratives to Units_without_personal_narratives/Units_with_personal_narratives but I noticed that some of yours use 'with no' instead of 'without' - which option should we go with? --[[Special:Contributions/81.151.21.219\|81.151.21.219]] 04:33, 16 December 2014 (PST)

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	:: Title case is more likely to yield consistent results, as sentence case requires a bit of interpretation. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 10:21, 8 December 2014 (PST)		:: Title case is more likely to yield consistent results, as sentence case requires a bit of interpretation. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 10:21, 8 December 2014 (PST)
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		+	::: Actually Wikipedia uses sentence case (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles#Article_title_format ) so assuming they've already thought through all the relevant issues, it's probably better to go with that --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 08:58, 9 December 2014 (PST)

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	Do you prefer sentence case or title case for category names that aren't based on proper nouns? It's an indifferent thing to me but best to be consistent (even though I haven't been so far).--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 10:25, 6 December 2014 (PST)		Do you prefer sentence case or title case for category names that aren't based on proper nouns? It's an indifferent thing to me but best to be consistent (even though I haven't been so far).--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 10:25, 6 December 2014 (PST)
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		+	:: Title case is more likely to yield consistent results, as sentence case requires a bit of interpretation. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 10:21, 8 December 2014 (PST)

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	:::I think whether the categories containing the actual pages take their names from general role or specific type will depend on how many each country is likely to have. "Australian medical units" can probably accomodate all of them without sub-categories but "British medical units" would probably be better split into "British field ambulances", "British casualty clearing stations" etc. Higher level parent categories can easily be worked out and changed later.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 10:23, 6 December 2014 (PST)		:::I think whether the categories containing the actual pages take their names from general role or specific type will depend on how many each country is likely to have. "Australian medical units" can probably accomodate all of them without sub-categories but "British medical units" would probably be better split into "British field ambulances", "British casualty clearing stations" etc. Higher level parent categories can easily be worked out and changed later.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 10:23, 6 December 2014 (PST)
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		+	==Case for category names?==
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		+	Do you prefer sentence case or title case for category names that aren't based on proper nouns? It's an indifferent thing to me but best to be consistent (even though I haven't been so far).--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 10:25, 6 December 2014 (PST)