User talk:Mia - Revision history

Mia: /* Quick fix for infoboxes */ Yay for Gavin!

2016-01-23T16:58:39Z

‎Quick fix for infoboxes: Yay for Gavin!

GavinRobinson: /* Quick fix for infoboxes */ all done

2016-01-23T15:21:22Z

‎Quick fix for infoboxes: all done

Mia: /* Quick fix for infoboxes */ Go for it!

2016-01-17T14:15:50Z

‎Quick fix for infoboxes: Go for it!

GavinRobinson: /* Quick fix for infoboxes */

2016-01-17T14:01:30Z

‎Quick fix for infoboxes

Mia: /* Quick fix for infoboxes */

2016-01-17T12:11:44Z

‎Quick fix for infoboxes

GavinRobinson: quick fix for infoboxes

2016-01-17T11:38:17Z

quick fix for infoboxes

Mia: /* New Zealand Units and Cross referencing */ Should we index named individuals in documents from other units?

2015-09-07T19:04:15Z

‎New Zealand Units and Cross referencing: Should we index named individuals in documents from other units?

VLeachman: Added comment.

2015-09-05T21:59:09Z

Added comment.

Mia: /* Jobs queue */

2015-08-15T16:42:10Z

‎Jobs queue

GavinRobinson: /* Jobs queue */ back to normal

2015-08-15T16:26:45Z

‎Jobs queue: back to normal

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	:::Infoboxes are all updated. Server performance seems to be much better so there's no immediate need for a move to new hosting, and it makes manual editing much easier. Still no idea why parser functions are performing better than Lua but it doesn't matter for now.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 07:21, 23 January 2016 (PST)		:::Infoboxes are all updated. Server performance seems to be much better so there's no immediate need for a move to new hosting, and it makes manual editing much easier. Still no idea why parser functions are performing better than Lua but it doesn't matter for now.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 07:21, 23 January 2016 (PST)
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		+	:::: That's fantastic news, thank you '''so''' much for finding and implementing that solution! --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 08:58, 23 January 2016 (PST)

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	:: Ok! I've got to upgrade the mediawiki install at some point but I've got a stack of other things to do this month so that won't be for a while anyway. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 06:15, 17 January 2016 (PST)		:: Ok! I've got to upgrade the mediawiki install at some point but I've got a stack of other things to do this month so that won't be for a while anyway. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 06:15, 17 January 2016 (PST)
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		+	:::Infoboxes are all updated. Server performance seems to be much better so there's no immediate need for a move to new hosting, and it makes manual editing much easier. Still no idea why parser functions are performing better than Lua but it doesn't matter for now.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 07:21, 23 January 2016 (PST)

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	:I'll probably leave it for a few days just in case we have any more ideas for improvements. Once the changes are made to the live templates it'll create a very big job queue.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 06:01, 17 January 2016 (PST)		:I'll probably leave it for a few days just in case we have any more ideas for improvements. Once the changes are made to the live templates it'll create a very big job queue.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 06:01, 17 January 2016 (PST)
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		+	:: Ok! I've got to upgrade the mediawiki install at some point but I've got a stack of other things to do this month so that won't be for a while anyway. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 06:15, 17 January 2016 (PST)

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	Thanks Gavin! It definitely looks work doing to me, and thanks for finding a solution. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 04:11, 17 January 2016 (PST)		Thanks Gavin! It definitely looks work doing to me, and thanks for finding a solution. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 04:11, 17 January 2016 (PST)
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		+	:I'll probably leave it for a few days just in case we have any more ideas for improvements. Once the changes are made to the live templates it'll create a very big job queue.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 06:01, 17 January 2016 (PST)

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	Not an ideal solution in the long term but for now they're an improvement because they display all the data that's been entered, make some fields into wikilinks, and don't seem to have major performance problems. If you agree, I can copy the source code into the real infobox templates. I think this would be worth doing whatever happens in the future, because even if we have to abandon or mothball the project, it would make the data more accessible to anyone who wants to re-use it. Feel free to adjust the CSS styles of the tables.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 03:37, 17 January 2016 (PST)		Not an ideal solution in the long term but for now they're an improvement because they display all the data that's been entered, make some fields into wikilinks, and don't seem to have major performance problems. If you agree, I can copy the source code into the real infobox templates. I think this would be worth doing whatever happens in the future, because even if we have to abandon or mothball the project, it would make the data more accessible to anyone who wants to re-use it. Feel free to adjust the CSS styles of the tables.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 03:37, 17 January 2016 (PST)
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		+	Thanks Gavin! It definitely looks work doing to me, and thanks for finding a solution. --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 04:11, 17 January 2016 (PST)

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	:: It's hard to know the best way to index references to named individuals from other units without knowing how often they occur (I'm guessing not very often). Other references might be contextual (e.g. if you know two men were from the same small town) so there'd be more value in highlighting those links/cross-references that couldn't be picked up by a name search. But if that information would be recorded in the Cenotaph then perhaps it's best if it only goes there for now? --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 12:03, 7 September 2015 (PDT)		:: It's hard to know the best way to index references to named individuals from other units without knowing how often they occur (I'm guessing not very often). Other references might be contextual (e.g. if you know two men were from the same small town) so there'd be more value in highlighting those links/cross-references that couldn't be picked up by a name search. But if that information would be recorded in the Cenotaph then perhaps it's best if it only goes there for now? --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 12:03, 7 September 2015 (PDT)
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		+	== Quick fix for infoboxes ==
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		+	I've made alternative versions of the infoboxes using only vanilla templates with a few parser functions:
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		+	* {{tl\|infobox military unit2}}
		+	* {{tl\|infobox command structure2}}
		+	* {{tl\|infobox theatre of war2}}
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		+	They're demonstrated on these pages:
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		+	* [[User:GavinRobinson/Test unit]]
		+	* [[42nd Division, UK]]
		+	* [[Northumberland Fusiliers, UK]]
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		+	Not an ideal solution in the long term but for now they're an improvement because they display all the data that's been entered, make some fields into wikilinks, and don't seem to have major performance problems. If you agree, I can copy the source code into the real infobox templates. I think this would be worth doing whatever happens in the future, because even if we have to abandon or mothball the project, it would make the data more accessible to anyone who wants to re-use it. Feel free to adjust the CSS styles of the tables.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 03:37, 17 January 2016 (PST)

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	Hi Mia, Thanks for the information on templates. I'm working my way through the Alexander Turnbull Library digitised personal papers for WW1 and updating both this wiki and also Auckland Museum's cenotaph database as I go. I still get confused with the military structure of the NZEF so I'm focussing on what I can find out via the military service records and the Cenotaph Online database and making a "best guess" with regard to personal diary unit placement. I'm thinking that if I do make an error we can always change it later.		Hi Mia, Thanks for the information on templates. I'm working my way through the Alexander Turnbull Library digitised personal papers for WW1 and updating both this wiki and also Auckland Museum's cenotaph database as I go. I still get confused with the military structure of the NZEF so I'm focussing on what I can find out via the military service records and the Cenotaph Online database and making a "best guess" with regard to personal diary unit placement. I'm thinking that if I do make an error we can always change it later.
	I'm keen on the idea of cross-referencing between personal diary mentions and people. [http://collaborativecollections.org/WorldWarOne/2nd_Battalion_Wellington_Regiment,_New_Zealand The example of the mention of the death of George Robbie in diary 2 of Cecil Jepson (see date 22 July 1917 image number 80) is the first one I've come across.] How would an index work and how would we go from unit to mentions of individuals? I was thinking of adding references into the Cenotaph rather than this wiki but I could do both. [[User:VLeachman\|VLeachman]] ([[User talk:VLeachman\|talk]]) 14:58, 5 September 2015 (PDT)		I'm keen on the idea of cross-referencing between personal diary mentions and people. [http://collaborativecollections.org/WorldWarOne/2nd_Battalion_Wellington_Regiment,_New_Zealand The example of the mention of the death of George Robbie in diary 2 of Cecil Jepson (see date 22 July 1917 image number 80) is the first one I've come across.] How would an index work and how would we go from unit to mentions of individuals? I was thinking of adding references into the Cenotaph rather than this wiki but I could do both. [[User:VLeachman\|VLeachman]] ([[User talk:VLeachman\|talk]]) 14:58, 5 September 2015 (PDT)
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		+	:: It's hard to know the best way to index references to named individuals from other units without knowing how often they occur (I'm guessing not very often). Other references might be contextual (e.g. if you know two men were from the same small town) so there'd be more value in highlighting those links/cross-references that couldn't be picked up by a name search. But if that information would be recorded in the Cenotaph then perhaps it's best if it only goes there for now? --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 12:03, 7 September 2015 (PDT)

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	::::::::: I might not get time to look into changing over the next two weeks, so go ahead with anything in the meantime, just in case! --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 09:42, 15 August 2015 (PDT)		::::::::: I might not get time to look into changing over the next two weeks, so go ahead with anything in the meantime, just in case! --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 09:42, 15 August 2015 (PDT)
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		+	== New Zealand Units and Cross referencing ==
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		+	Hi Mia, Thanks for the information on templates. I'm working my way through the Alexander Turnbull Library digitised personal papers for WW1 and updating both this wiki and also Auckland Museum's cenotaph database as I go. I still get confused with the military structure of the NZEF so I'm focussing on what I can find out via the military service records and the Cenotaph Online database and making a "best guess" with regard to personal diary unit placement. I'm thinking that if I do make an error we can always change it later.
		+	I'm keen on the idea of cross-referencing between personal diary mentions and people. [http://collaborativecollections.org/WorldWarOne/2nd_Battalion_Wellington_Regiment,_New_Zealand The example of the mention of the death of George Robbie in diary 2 of Cecil Jepson (see date 22 July 1917 image number 80) is the first one I've come across.] How would an index work and how would we go from unit to mentions of individuals? I was thinking of adding references into the Cenotaph rather than this wiki but I could do both. [[User:VLeachman\|VLeachman]] ([[User talk:VLeachman\|talk]]) 14:58, 5 September 2015 (PDT)

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	:::::::: Looks like everything's working normally now and 0 jobs. I'll try not to trigger any more jobs before the move.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 09:26, 15 August 2015 (PDT)		:::::::: Looks like everything's working normally now and 0 jobs. I'll try not to trigger any more jobs before the move.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 09:26, 15 August 2015 (PDT)
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		+	::::::::: I might not get time to look into changing over the next two weeks, so go ahead with anything in the meantime, just in case! --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 09:42, 15 August 2015 (PDT)

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	::::::: Sorry, I'd forgotten that the Lua binaries need to be set to be executable manually after upgrade! --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 04:13, 15 August 2015 (PDT)		::::::: Sorry, I'd forgotten that the Lua binaries need to be set to be executable manually after upgrade! --[[User:Mia\|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia\|talk]]) 04:13, 15 August 2015 (PDT)
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		+	:::::::: Looks like everything's working normally now and 0 jobs. I'll try not to trigger any more jobs before the move.--[[User:GavinRobinson\|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson\|talk]]) 09:26, 15 August 2015 (PDT)