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Are Date mobilised, Date demobilisation started, Date demobilisation ended too much detail for these infoboxes, even as very, very optional fields? It's not already in Wikipedia so it's not duplicating anything, but the gist of 'where someone's unit' was may be conveyed by 'theatres' over time, but does that assume too much knowledge about what not being in a theatre meant? | Are Date mobilised, Date demobilisation started, Date demobilisation ended too much detail for these infoboxes, even as very, very optional fields? It's not already in Wikipedia so it's not duplicating anything, but the gist of 'where someone's unit' was may be conveyed by 'theatres' over time, but does that assume too much knowledge about what not being in a theatre meant? | ||
--[[User:Mia|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia|talk]]) 11:22, 4 November 2014 (PST) | --[[User:Mia|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia|talk]]) 11:22, 4 November 2014 (PST) | ||
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| + | :I now think date mobilised isn't worth recording at all at unit level. Units that were only raised during the war won't have one. If a unit existed before the war, it's usually safe to assume it was mobilised immediately after declaration of war. It is worth paying attention to start and end of demobilisation, as in the sending home of soldiers who enlisted for the duration of the war, as this is a significant part of lived experience, and the end date doesn't necessarily match the end of the unit as an organization. Dates can often be found in war diaries or published histories, and might be included in Operation War Diary.--[[User:GavinRobinson|GavinRobinson]] ([[User talk:GavinRobinson|talk]]) 11:15, 5 November 2014 (PST) | ||
I've got infoboxes imported from Wikipedia but Lua (used for the extension that serves them) is throwing errors. Once that's sorted I need to tweak the format of the infoboxes e.g. http://collaborativecollections.org/WorldWarOne/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_military_unit --[[User:Mia|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia|talk]]) 02:36, 5 November 2014 (PST) | I've got infoboxes imported from Wikipedia but Lua (used for the extension that serves them) is throwing errors. Once that's sorted I need to tweak the format of the infoboxes e.g. http://collaborativecollections.org/WorldWarOne/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_military_unit --[[User:Mia|Mia]] ([[User talk:Mia|talk]]) 02:36, 5 November 2014 (PST) | ||
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Further context and discussion for this template is in a commentable doc at towards modelling information about World War One Battalions --Mia (talk) 11:27, 4 November 2014 (PST)
Are Date mobilised, Date demobilisation started, Date demobilisation ended too much detail for these infoboxes, even as very, very optional fields? It's not already in Wikipedia so it's not duplicating anything, but the gist of 'where someone's unit' was may be conveyed by 'theatres' over time, but does that assume too much knowledge about what not being in a theatre meant? --Mia (talk) 11:22, 4 November 2014 (PST)
- I now think date mobilised isn't worth recording at all at unit level. Units that were only raised during the war won't have one. If a unit existed before the war, it's usually safe to assume it was mobilised immediately after declaration of war. It is worth paying attention to start and end of demobilisation, as in the sending home of soldiers who enlisted for the duration of the war, as this is a significant part of lived experience, and the end date doesn't necessarily match the end of the unit as an organization. Dates can often be found in war diaries or published histories, and might be included in Operation War Diary.--GavinRobinson (talk) 11:15, 5 November 2014 (PST)
I've got infoboxes imported from Wikipedia but Lua (used for the extension that serves them) is throwing errors. Once that's sorted I need to tweak the format of the infoboxes e.g. http://collaborativecollections.org/WorldWarOne/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_military_unit --Mia (talk) 02:36, 5 November 2014 (PST)
Similarly, does adding a 'Source' or 'evidence' field for e.g. theatre, hierarchy changes just clutter up the infobox? Or is there an advantage to having that as structured data? --Mia (talk) 11:27, 4 November 2014 (PST)
